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Old Nov 01, 2009, 09:31 AM // 09:31   #1
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Alright, this is getting a bit annoying now; my brother & I both have years of GW experience and tons of tools at are disposal, but neither of us have the Underworld monument!

Seem to be forever falling at the Ice Wastes or Chaos Planes quests, no matter how efficiently we can flatten every monster outside of quests - help!

I need a build that 2 player characters can use to complete the Underworld, please.

Our state:

* All the Heroes available, obviously.

* Pretty much all festive & conset items, or can buy if need-be.

* He has...
> A Warrior with all Elites and maxed PvE skills.
> An Assassin, with which he runs permanent Shadow Form variants often.
> A Monk, with which he runs 55 and 600 builds often.
> A Ranger, set-up for soloing with Ritualist Spirits.
> A Dervish with middling-to-good PvE ranks.
> An Ele and Necromancer who are a little below par, but can be accelerated if necessary.

* I have...
> A Necromancer with all Elites and maxed PvE skills.
> An Assassin set-up for permanent Shadow Form, but at which I do sadly suck.
> A Paragon with middling PvE ranks.
> A decent Elementalist, Ritualist and Warrior.

The obvious weak-link is that I don't have many gimmick-build classes available, and that I'm just not reliable at maintaining them anyway (or micro-managing Heroes utilising them).
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Old Nov 01, 2009, 10:10 AM // 10:10   #2
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Basicly, if u want it to be so easy that its getting a bit boring
get a conset+the stuff ToTbags gives u , seeing as they are so easy to get, its cheap.
then get an Runed Discordteam,you go as an N/A and AP call
and war can run around with AoEtype Hammer skills, like Earthshaker
Then enter UW-and u should srs have No problems at all!
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Old Nov 01, 2009, 10:25 AM // 10:25   #3
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Basicly, if u want it to be so easy that its getting a bit boring
get a conset+the stuff ToTbags gives u , seeing as they are so easy to get, its cheap.
then get an Runed Discordteam,you go as an N/A and AP call
and war can run around with AoEtype Hammer skills, like Earthshaker
Then enter UW-and u should srs have No problems at all!
i don't see this solution capable of completing the four horsemen quest.
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Old Nov 01, 2009, 10:47 AM // 10:47   #4
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why dont you just join an uwsc group in toa and complete it that way? Plus you get it completed in hard mode and get the end chest as well
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Old Nov 01, 2009, 10:53 AM // 10:53   #5
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Id say make your brother go as sin. His bar should be Deadly Paradox + Shadow form + normal bar (w/o elite of course) [Use a dervish build or dagger build for ex, most of them dont rely on elite]

Then just run double discordway, you as a AP caller. Wastes is easy now, spawns go 2 by 2 or smth like that, one half protects reaper, the other half protects frozenwind.

For chaos plains, pop an essence and make the sin tank one of the sides (just mantaining shadow form) and the other group (1 player + 6 heroes) take the other side. When the heros group has finished, go and kill the ones at the other side.
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Old Nov 01, 2009, 11:13 AM // 11:13   #6
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just join an UWSC group(if it still works i am not sure cuz of skeletons)
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Old Nov 01, 2009, 12:53 PM // 12:53   #7
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Id say make your brother go as sin. His bar should be Deadly Paradox + Shadow form + normal bar (w/o elite of course) [Use a dervish build or dagger build for ex, most of them dont rely on elite]

Then just run double discordway, you as a AP caller. Wastes is easy now, spawns go 2 by 2 or smth like that, one half protects reaper, the other half protects frozenwind.

For chaos plains, pop an essence and make the sin tank one of the sides (just mantaining shadow form) and the other group (1 player + 6 heroes) take the other side. When the heros group has finished, go and kill the ones at the other side.
Given this a go, but when we did the Wastes 4|4 split his Necros apparently did nothing despite some emergency manual triggering (to try and get them to actually lay Hexes and Conditions), then fled-led Dryders all the way to the Reaper.

We'll try again later with a 7|1 where he just holds half 'em up with Shadow Form.
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Old Nov 01, 2009, 05:59 PM // 17:59   #8
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I completed two man UW with me as a dervish and my friend as a spellbreaker monk.

I ran zealous vow scythe with club of a thousand bears for free KDs, rending aura for smite tanking, and AoHm for big domoge.

Had a tease hero with mirror of disenchant, empathetic MM (Empathetic removal, bone minions, death nova, rest prots) a RoJ SoH support.

Not sure friend's exact bar, but know it had divine aura, Shield of absorption, GDW and spellbreaker pewpew

UA healer, Song of restore para, and a ward against harm warder.


Basically, I was all the damage, and buffed up to hell and back with 42 armor ignoring damage+40% KD chance not including any skill on my bar, while everything else was defensive.

For 4h, me and friend took one side and threw heroes on other, they tanked it fine with the warder.
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Old Nov 01, 2009, 06:55 PM // 18:55   #9
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V I C T O R Y !

And it only took 4 years.

4 Hours of adventuring in the end, with his 3 Heroes as that N/Mo N/Rt N/Rt combo that is floating around and mine as 2 E/Me Searer interrupters plus a Mo/Me Glimmer interrupt Monk (Meteor Showers begone).

Thanks for the tips everyone - I don't think we'd ever have won without two 7|1 splits and his permasinning of Unwanted Guests to finish.

Never ever ever planning to think of doing that again.
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Old Nov 02, 2009, 02:56 AM // 02:56   #10
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congrats!

I wouldve just went meta uwsc or got 2 or more 600/smite groups
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